Chris Hughes appeared on
Dr. Drew on HLN April 29. A long-time friend of Travis Alexander, Hughes states he and his wife, Sky, did not approve of Jodi Arias and tried to convince Travis to stay away from her. [Edited 4/30/13: My reporting of the interview has been substituted by relevant portions of the show's transcript.]
Transcript Excerpts
HUGHES: But really, but let me answer your question in short. Travis
-- I want to make this as concise as I can. We had Travis come to our
room one night just to talk to him about some of these things that
you`re asking about that we had observed in Jodi and her behavior. And
it`s a long list, a way longer than we have time for tonight.
And Jodi was there, but she was downstairs in a different bedroom and
sleeping. And we`re talking for a couple hours. And all of a sudden my
wife, she`s got a sixth sense about things, and she says oh, my gosh.
She`s out there. You know, she`s whispering this. And we`re all like
looking at her, like, who, Jodi? And she said yes, she`s out there.
She`s listening. And so, we`re all kind of freaked out and we change
the subject for about 30 seconds.
And then, there`s a knock at
the door and it`s Jodi. Now, this is (ph) in the late hours of the
night. She`s supposed to be asleep in another bedroom. You know, she
says, hey, is everything OK? And we`re like everything`s fine. Travis
is like fine, I`ll come down to say goodnight a little bit later.
Well, then, we continue our conversation, maybe another 45 minutes to
an hour goes by, and my wife gets this feeling again, and she goes she`s
out there again. She`s listening. She`s whispering this, of course.
And so, Travis jumps off the bed, jerks the door open, and there`s Jodi
Arias with the most frightening, evil, I mean, I`ve never seen anything
like it before or since, and I`ve seen a lot of things in my 40 years,
nothing like what we saw that night.
And we knew -- it was just
a feeling that we had that downloaded everything into our minds what
this woman was capable of. We knew it in that moment. And as a matter
of fact, we told Travis, you go downstairs and you handle that. We`re
going to bed. We were so freaked out. And we laid there in bed, my
wife and I wondering, like, are our children safe?
You know?
Like do we need to go get our kids? How did we get to this place in our
life where someone like this is in our house? We saw it. We felt it.
We knew it then.
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PINSKY: Welcome back. I`m with my co-host, Jenny Hutt, and our panel
and Chris Hughes. Chris was Travis` best friend. His wife, Skye, will
join us tomorrow. Chris, first, set the record straight -- well, before
we set the record straight on that e-mail issue that LaViolette was
mentioning, I want to read you a Twitter here.
It is from Mama
Bear Jones. She says, "That story from Chris Hughes was mesmerizing and
scary. Jodi is a dangerous, pathological person." My understanding,
Chris, is your wife had some interesting nickname for her as well, is
that correct?
HUGHES: Yes. She -- after that night, the next
day, Skye kicked her out of our house, you know, went down in stairs and
just said, look, you`re out. We don`t want you ever to come back. We
don`t want to have anything to do with you. And from that day forward,
she`s called her, you know, Peyton, from "Hand that Rocks the Cradle" --
HUTT: Yes.
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HUGHES: Yes. And those are her nicknames from that day forward.
PINSKY: How long was that before she actually killed Travis?
HUGHES: That was April 2007. April-ish. It was around April 2007. So, it was a full year later that she killed Travis.
PINSKY: Now, set the record straight on that e-mail. Go.
HUGHES: Well, I`ll tell you this. I love that Ms. LaViolette did all
the speaking for Chris and Skye Hughes. It`s just totally bogus, you
know? And I`m so glad that I have this opportunity to set the record
straight. Here`s the truth of the matter.
Jodi comes to our
house unannounced, unannounced and is whining and complaining about
Travis and, you know, lying about Travis and all of these things and
we`re saying look, move on. If you`re not getting what you want, get
out, you know?
PINSKY: Please move on, yes.
HUGHES: Yes. Move on. I mean, but she`s telling us, oh, I had a vision. I had a vision.
PINSKY: Oh, boy.
HUGHES: And I`m supposed to marry Travis.
PINSKY: Oh, boy.
HUGHES: Oh, yes. Yes. And she just couldn`t let it go. And we`re
like, look, he`s not committing to you. Move on, you know? And then,
my wife says to her --
PINSKY: Chris?
HUGHES: Yes.
PINSKY: Yes. I just want to interrupt you. I know Cheryl has got a
question for you. We have such limited time with you. And again, I
appreciate you being here. And Cheryl, that kind of vision and the
secret and magical thinking is something that has bothered us about her
from the beginning.
CHERYL ARUTT, PSY.D., @DRCHERYLARUTT:
That`s right, Dr. Drew. That is so scary. Chris, I just want to say,
I`m so sorry for the loss of your friend. And when you were -- when you
heard the defense make so much of this e-mail that you and were your
wife wrote to really try to, it seems kind of handle Jodi, to get Jodi
to maybe stay away from your friend, what was that like for you to hear
it misused in that way to kind of framed as - - to try to to look like
an abuser?
HUGHES: It was outrageous, you know? And if the
truth be told, if we could get those e-mails and read them, I retracted
in that e-mail feed, I retracted the word abusive, because I said, you
know what? That`s over the top. You know, we would say rough around
the edges. He was the T-dog. That`s what we called him, you know?
And I -- it`s just crazy that they were able to take this one little
sentence out of a long string of sentences, several e-mails back and
forth and manipulate my words. And you know, we didn`t get called in to
talk about that. You know, anyway, it`s just --
PINSKY: I`m
sorry to interrupt. I`ve got to make another break. I cannot let you
go. Please, stay here. Jenny, you have got questions, and Mark, you`ve
got questions. I`ve got another question about the way Travis being
painted as a bad Mormon. We got a lot of stuff. Please don`t go. I`ll
be right back with Chris.
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